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Post by Christelle on Mar 16, 2018 6:16:43 GMT
Did anyone find the Oxford edition of The Pulse on the Japanese cd? Mine came in this morning (Australia). I’ve listened to it but I’m now at work so I can’t do anything more than that until later today... It feels slower paced, piano based with programmed/electronic percussion, and some strings and guitar (but not the riffs that we’re left out of the official version). Plus more falsetto. It's like a new song...so different, quiet with a little bit of falsetto!I prefer the album version! 
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Post by cityscape on Mar 16, 2018 8:33:22 GMT
I like both versions of The Pulse - they really are like 2 different songs. If they'd bookended the album with the 2 different versions, like Neil Young did with Rockin In The Free World on Freedom, I wouldn't have complained.
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Post by frogspinach on Mar 16, 2018 8:37:24 GMT
Something I noticed (maybe really obvious but to me, its just dropped). On this album they all having backing vocals. Every last track including the bonuses.
And - Editors have been working up/developing this as the new band gathers more cohesion, confidence - if you listen starting from TWOYL (primarily Tom on vocals, some backing throughout including the opening track which works well ), ID (elliot more confident and present, but not totally dominate with Rachel Goswell providing the duet on some tracks (liked them all by the way).
Then, with violence, its full throttle with ooh and ahhs along with harmonic replies to Toms lead. Sometimes its well disguised with so much going on in the tracks. And sometimes its in zone, works brilliantly and enhances what could otherwise be fairly pedestrian.
Other times though, I do wonder if its really helping, or has now become a habitual process in the development stage of an Editors phase 2 song with Tom and Elliot and possibly to a lesser extent (?), Justin collaborating for the backing arrangements.
Still loving Violence overall- just thinking aloud.
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Post by sleeptwitch on Mar 16, 2018 12:38:56 GMT
To throw in my two pennies worth... Of course, as always, only my personal feeling about it - on the whole, I'm very excited about E6. Some bits are hard for me to chew, though. Cold / Magazine - above any reproach. Loved them live, esp. Magazine, and the record versions don't disappoint. Hallelujah - was live my "least favourite" of the new material. But now, what a blast! Sounds really massive and powerful and I'm totally into that. Kudos and hooray! Violence - the acoustic version (Ridge Farm, despite the sound problems) got me in an instant. Then I heard about how different it sounds on the album and was a bit afraid - it turned out: for no reason, it's definitely one of my favourites. Maybe because to me this one stands for that typical Editors effect (you know: "they keep reinventing themselves" etc): I like their sound at time x - the next album is supposed to be completely different - I read the first descriptions of the new sound and think: oh please, no! - I hear the new stuff - and surprise, I feel totally picked up in a mood I didn't even know I were in before. That's just amazing! Nothingness - after the first minute or so, which I find a tiny bit lame, the chorus goes straight into the legs. Ok, now I'm also a dancer, that's news to me, but fine (see above...) Darkness at the Door - concerning my dancing shoes: same effect. What the hell happened here??? Don't get me wrong, I like it, but there must have been something fatally gone wrong. Sounds far too much like merry sunny festival days (I'm used to drowning, so this is so misplaced!) and this kind of storytelling lyrics are unfamiliar as well. I suspect Andy Burrows to be involved in any kind... And I wonder if this one bears the risk that I'm fed up with it at some time. No Sound... - that's a tricky one. I was so fond of the Werchter version (and still am, it's pure and simple and by being that so touching), then came the full band version of the Unedited box which ment a lot to me and I strongly expect it to be in my all-time top 10. This song has such a powerful background. And that seems to be a problem now. To me, this story has been told already, and the new version - beautiful as it is, I don't deny that - just doesn't add anything to it. If that makes any sense. Counting Spooks / Belong - well, reading all your reviews here I hardly have the heart to say that, but: they didn't got me. I wouldn't skip them, but I'm not excited. Maybe it's my lack of musical expertise (I just like what I like and don't what I don't, I can't tell what is going on in a song on a professional basis and judge that, so maybe I just overlook the brilliancy in there). Concerning Counting Spooks I expect it to grow on me, but for now I've got some strange associations with it. The first part feels like a sports hymn, people swaying arm in arm with some beer, singing along, whilst their team is stepping onto the ground - then that trip to Funkytown in the second part - that is quite confusing. So, give me some time - it just, well, didn't hit me right here, so to say... could feel different live, though (ask me tomorrow night ). With Belong I'm not so optimistic. This one is beyond gloomy, it's oppressive. I think it's partly that metronome effect. The lyrics don't help either (of course...). And to make it completely weird there is that - well, I don't know what it is. Sounds like a Sirtaki by traditional Chinese instruments. What is it?? And what is it doing?? Except giving me the creeps... And then Tom speaking of it as the most Editors-like track of the album - blimey... Ok, maybe I would skip it on the dentist's chair, since it's so not soothing me. On the contrary, that would be my soundtrack for feeling like there won't be any hope in this world again, ever. Period. Which is despite the "optimistic miserabilists" not what Editors used to evoke in me (it says "optimistic", after all, for heaven's sake!). So, obviously this one touched some sore spot with me. Beautifully used voice, though. I'll focus on that, unless someone of you can clear this one up for me...  The bonus tracks - I could only hear them online so far, obviously pre-ordered the wrong package, but that's a different story.... But that could be some critical factor here: The Pulse - how excited I have been hearing it for the first time, live! Over and over again... Compared to the festival stuff it sounds a bit flat now, and neglected. Pity. I'm glad it's still out there, though. When we were Angels - no opinion about it. Went into my left ear and out of the right. Maybe need it in decent quality, finally, and then turning up the volume. The whole album benefits from a higher volume...
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Post by allsparks on Mar 18, 2018 7:18:50 GMT
Violence is No 6 in the charts in Germany.
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Post by colint on Mar 18, 2018 7:34:07 GMT
Violence is No 6 in the charts in Germany. #1 on Vinyl in The Netherlands, and #2 for regular albums (behind Josylvio, WHO THE F**K IS THAT? O_o )
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Post by allsparks on Mar 18, 2018 8:44:09 GMT
Violence is No 6 in the charts in Germany. #1 on Vinyl in The Netherlands, and #2 for regular albums (behind Josylvio, WHO THE F**K IS THAT? O_o ) When i looked at the german charts i also had this feeling like who is that.
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Post by colint on Mar 18, 2018 8:54:11 GMT
#1 on Vinyl in The Netherlands, and #2 for regular albums (behind Josylvio, WHO THE F**K IS THAT?  ) When i looked at the german charts i also had this feeling like who is that. Just looked it up and it's really bad hiphop. I guess Editors would be #1 if they wouldn't count streams on Spotify.
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Post by tigerskin84 on Mar 18, 2018 14:17:26 GMT
I really like this album but at least for me they released too much songs before the album came out, 6 songs if i count violence(acoustic)
and when the record finally released i had counting spooks, belong,nothingness,darkness at the door and whe where angels... the other i heard them 100000 times before and they are a lot better live than the studio versions. It was like finally released the record but theres wasnt any surprises or very few like belong and counting spooks...
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Post by bugman13 on Mar 18, 2018 14:20:41 GMT
I really like this album but at least for me they released too much songs before the album came out, 6 songs if i count violence(acoustic) and when the record finally released i had counting spooks, belong,nothingness,darkness at the door and whe where angels... the other i heard them 100000 times before and they are a lot better live than the studio versions. It was like finally released the record but theres wasnt any surprises or very few like belong and counting spooks... it's normal for this days. i waited for gorillaz new album 7 years. and so.... last yesa, in one day we got 4 new songs!!! a few weeks later another 3. it was nearly a half an album.
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Post by oceanofeditors on Mar 20, 2018 20:19:05 GMT
So anybody know the meaning of/or story behind every song?
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Post by alexs on Mar 20, 2018 21:20:47 GMT
I just realized, for the last 2 albums prior to Violence they made mini documentaries. We didn't get anything for this one. What a shame.
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Post by dane on Mar 21, 2018 19:48:12 GMT
VIOLENCE Resequence: Perfect Violence I like the new record, but man it didn't flow well to me. So I re-ordered the tracks- and took out a couple of the saggy ones. At 32 minutes, this resequence is quick, sharp, and all-killer no-filler. In my opinion, listening to it this way takes it from a 7/10 to an 8/10. Give it a go and tell me what you think. 1: Magazine 2: Darkness at the Door 3: Hallelujah (So Low) 4: Violence 5: Cold 6: Nothingness 7: Counting Spooks I also have a Spotify playlist "Perfect Violence" under the profile "dtsprinkle".
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Post by colint on Mar 21, 2018 20:22:40 GMT
VIOLENCE Resequence: Perfect Violence I like the new record, but man it didn't flow well to me. So I re-ordered the tracks- and took out a couple of the saggy ones. At 32 minutes, this resequence is quick, sharp, and all-killer no-filler. In my opinion, listening to it this way takes it from a 7/10 to an 8/10. Give it a go and tell me what you think.  1: Magazine 2: Darkness at the Door 3: Hallelujah (So Low) 4: Violence 5: Cold 6: Nothingness 7: Counting Spooks I also have a Spotify playlist "Perfect Violence" under the profile "dtsprinkle". A version of Violence without "Belong" can never be perfect...
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Post by theboxer on Mar 21, 2018 21:42:25 GMT
The only change I would make to the album is NSBTW out and Oxford version of The Pulse in.
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