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Post by allsparks on Mar 18, 2018 18:51:29 GMT
I think the last years happend a real audience change who go to concerts, not only Editors related. The Event/i was there made a selfie and a lot of videos with my mobile people got more and more. The mobile front has changed a bit i think, to a more lower level luckily. I always try to get into the "party zone" maybe 4th row. And there are people standing with crossed arms, and complain when you push them a little while moving. Everyone has it´s own way of enjoying a concert, but if they want just to stand without reaction/movement in the pit it destroys the feeling of the concert. I had several arguments during gigs with people, who were in front of the band complaining about being moved by the other fans who were a bit more enthusiastic. And i am not an aggressive Pogo dancer. I always take care of the other fans. Pro Pogo!  It was funny, when Biffy Clyro Supprted Muse a few years ago, 2 girls from Israel were really angry about the little moving, it was really nothing...I told her that when Muse will play it will be much more action in the pit, and if this is too much for her she better get out of the front...it took 3 Minute when Muse played, and they left... Regarding the mobile phones, I once stood behind a woman at a U2 concert that was filming the entire concert on her iPad...really nice to have such a screen in your face all night. With respect to audiences, sometimes the atmosphere is really nice when you don't expect it. 2 years ago I bought a ticket to a festival in Cologne where Editors were headlining, only after buying the ticket I found out that it was a goth festival  But the people there were really nice and there was a nice connection with the band. At one point, a guy in a pink skirt got up on stage and started to dance with Russel, we all had a laugh. Also, during the end of Marching Orders every single person was dancing around with their arms up, it was really nice. That must have been the Amphifestival...yes i used to go a lot to these festivals, and the people were always very kind. On a 4 Day Festival the manager flew with the money for the bands, and they of course refused to play... The Festival got cancelled, and all the crowd left the festival quiet. A metal crowd would have done something different  After a long break this year i will attend the Mera Luna Festival...some good bands, and a lot of sh.. bands.
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Post by Captain Crieff on Mar 18, 2018 19:24:13 GMT
Maybe indeed the expectations are particularly high at Belgium - the shows are so big and selling out so fast, so it seems only natural that there‘ll be an enthusiastic crowd. Not to forget that well known „special relationship“. Taking all this into account Editors in Belgium has been a must-see for me. At the smaller venues in Germany (neither a country known for passion...) I often thought: what a pity this band don‘t get the attention it - imho - deserves, so I‘d really love to see them playing for a big and „thankful“ crowd, which I expected here. I never went to a show in the south of Europe, so that is not my leveling rule either. And of course there are people with seating tickets who want to keep seating, or have to. They paid for it. But that’s not even the point - at my block it seemed like most of the people were just watching telly. Somebody had crisps. Not during the stage modification - during the main act. I mean, you don’t have to freak out completely, but it can‘t hurt to sway a little or nod your head or to clap along when „asked“ or to give any sign of appreciation, can it? I’d think this would be only kind to the artists, to show you care for their performance. Beyond buying a ticket. I felt like „maybe it’s just not common here - hopefully I don‘t disturb anyone“. That was quite awkward. During the encore the people stood up, but I saw one person leaving like it was too much for him. Of course you don‘t know people‘s condition. That E6 is a new one has surely been a determining factor. I‘ve seen two women in my vicinity singing along, but only to the older stuff. Looking into the pit you could see people enjoying the show as well. And there is always a party at the frontrow (not knowing what‘s going on behind you can be an advantage  ). I believe it was a blast there! But I have to admit that I find it hard to let my surroundings fade out. I can‘t just switch the audience off, for me it’s part of the experience. And it’s always great to see known faces and do this thing together. Some years ago I had a contrary experience as well, where some presumably drunk guys had fun pushing into the crowd, people were squished against the barriers and it felt quite serious. So getting bruised and hurt is not the better option - then I‘d take the weirdness of being the freak And of course you can have an unenthusiastic audience anywhere else as well. It depends more on the special crowd and their mood than on the country or maybe even the band performance, I assume. I for one had not the impression that the performance was the problem... Some thoughts on the show itself: NSBTW was definitely a magic moment. Goosebumps! And: This is Belgium as well! Hello! I believe that wouldn‘t have happened this way somewhere else, I have to give the audience credit for that! I loved how Violence faded into No Harm. When I saw NH in the middle of a set I wondered how that could work, it is such an opener. Well, now I know, exactly like this. Good job! The live version of Belong made me fonder of that song, it was simply beautiful. And I had some struggle with that one before... so: phew. Great to hear ITL again, fits perfectly into the set. Nothingness - is it me or were there, well, changes of lyrics..? Not sure about the new Ocean of Night. It‘s so clappy - an all-time clapper, so to speak, so the used clapping part (the Russell-animated one) loses its effect. And I always liked that. But: Ed! Awesome! Nice that he got that appearance. The stage design was a bit too much for my taste. I really liked the concrete and the hangar design - nice and simple. The new one reminded me somehow of a junk yard - though a stylish one Maybe it also has something to do with the venue, the Sportpaleis looks like a big warehouse that really lacks a nice atmosphere. I'm going to the concerts in Cologne (4000 people, not sold out) and Amsterdam (17,000 people, sold out), I'm curious to find out how different these concerts feel. This is definitely true. People always complain about Sportpaleis crowds. But I really found it okay yesterday, obviously I was on the front row and I didn't look behind me all the time I feel like this is a bit of a case of much ado about nothing. Big show, enormous concert hall, lots of casual fans, lots of not-so-young people too, and as far as I know people never move on the bleachers and balcony of the Sportpaleis.
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Post by Captain Crieff on Mar 19, 2018 14:27:40 GMT
Some words about the Sportpaleis show. My first Editors gig was at the same venue, so there are some elements of nostalgia here and there. It's rather long I apologise Queuing in the cold*jingle* weather update: it's cold. It's very cold. -1° with a strong wind from the north east, feels like -8°. "Spring tour", they said… "No, a random winter day in March", the weather decided. Was I looking forward to queuing in those circumstances for more than 4 hours? Hell no. was I going to queue for more than 4 hours in those circumstances? Hell yes. Though I'm pretty sure I wouldn't have done it if I were 20cm taller. The good news is that those emergency blankets really help. What didn't help was that a team effort between my left foot and the wind tore the thing in half after like 30 minutes. Well, I now had two blankets so I tried to burrito-wrap myself in them and the result wasn't too bad. There is one body part for which the blankets do fuck all though: the feet. I know what it feels like not to have toes now. (It feels uncomfortable.) The rest of the queuing time was spent chatting and wondering if I'd ever feel my toes again. sleeptwitch briefly paid us a visit to bring us hot chocolate, she's an angel tbh. Thankfully I managed to thaw my feet before the doors opened, so I didn't have to run on what felt like ice cubes to get to the barrier. I was struck by how fucking enormous the Sportpaleis actually is. Editors sold this thing out long ago? What? I remember my friend saying "huge isn't it?" in 2013 and I was like "…yeah" because I had no point of reference whatsoever, it was the first time I was at a concert. It is fucking huge. Public Service Broadcasting
These guys have found the perfect solution for not having a singer. It's something special, but apart from 2 songs or so everything kind of sounded the same. Still, quite enjoyable. Editors
The backdrop that hid the metal constructions on the stage only came down when the lights went out, and there was a modest collective "ooooh" in the crowd when the spectacular stage decoration was revealed. I really like it, it's big and looks kind of artsy. I knew Hallelujah was going to be the opening track, but for the rest of the set I only had a vague idea of the setlist, which really helped bring back the element of surprise I had lost 2.5 years ago. Darkness At The Door was the first new song to be thrown at us. The faint cloud of gloom that was still hanging around me and the people near me, promptly disappeared. " This is our corner of the planet, it's the straight edges we inhabit, we ignore the darkness at the door. Turn the lights out if you hear me, stop your screaming just speak clearly. The lonely and the righteous, I just need friends and nothing more." All the gloom was gone. The year is 2018, and Editors have written a simple, happy pop tune. It's time to dance. One little point of attention: I'm all for Elliott taking the lead vocals, but then his mic should really be turned up to lead vocal volume. It was nearly loud enough, but just a tad too silent, though it may have been the venue's infamous sound quality's fault. The volume was fine for the never lonely in town part. By Formaldehyde I was enjoying myself pretty much more than ever and I don't know exactly what caused it. In any case, what happened next raised the gig to a new high. Violence into No Harm. The best part isn't even how Violence flows into No Harm so nicely, that's cool but just the two songs alone killed me. Violence has a loud guitar and a long outro with extra vocals, and No Harm fucking evolved. It used to sound strong and breakable at the same time, and now, with the extra guitar and some added drama in the vocals, there's a kind of tension in it and it possibly sounds even better than the In Dream tour version. And there, they had done it. My 10th Editors concert, and I was just as surprised as when I first saw them. I thought the element of surprise was gone forever which would've been fair enough after 9 concerts in a fairly small time frame, but nope. Nothingness sounded fantastic, and then came Belong. Oh boy. That guitar. And the vocals too. What a jewel. It wasn't even the highlight of the show though, that was Ocean Of Night. It was already one of my favourite Editors songs, and now it got the status it deserves. I hope they'll never stop playing it like this and it's definitely the best main set closer since Honesty. For me it's better than Honesty, even. I mean it ends with a fucking drum solo from Ed, HELL YES. 10/10. Also, after more than 4 years, they finally changed the pyros. The big flames for Sugar and Papillon are gone. Papillon now has something called "glitter mines". They kept the best ones though: The Racing Rats' spark waterfall and Marching Order's fountain. I'd like to add that Russell ran though the spark waterfall twice. If my memory serves me right I believe he even stood under the waterfall for like a second. In a recent interview, Justin mentioned getting one of those sparks in your eyes is quite painful, but King Leetch braved the sparks twice. Another new thing I very much approve of: fixed cameras. It was very nice not to have a huge camera rolling in my view every two minutes, and the cameras in Elliott's corner, near Ed's drum kit and on the piano surely added some cool perspectives on the screens I barely looked at. Acoustic Song has a rooted position on the setlist, and in Belgium it's of course No Sound But The Wind. I don't mind the guitar version, but on the In Dream tour I felt like the magic of the whole thing had faded a little. Well, guess what, it's back. The phone-lights-in-the-sky thing that was going on made Tom stop mid song to say "Sorry you're putting me off, that's fucking beautiful thank you so much." When he said "after all these years you still surprise me, Belgium" at the end of the song I could only think: same. After all these years you still surprise me, Editors. Cold and Magazine both sound much better than they did last summer. The crowd reacted very well to Magazine too, I can really feel this one becoming a second Papillon. Obligatory Marching Orders mention: I still fucking love that song. I've always struggled to rank my Editors gigs but I have a clear number 1 now. After all these years, after all these shows they've managed to surprise me with how good the new songs sound (okay, I could have expected that), fantastic new versions of No Harm and Ocean Of Night, the most magical rendition of NSBTW (but that was thanks to the crowd), and a fresh pyro show. It all took place in a venue of the size they deserve, and I had never had so much fun at a gig. Let's see if Friday's show in Paris can beat this one. A good ol' setlist handout
I really wanted a setlist because it was a hometown show for me, and because the new line they put at the bottom is even better than the one they used to put. Instead of a copyright notice, it now says 'Congratulations, you are now the proud owner of an E D I T O R S set list' Brilliant. However, I was too shy to ask the security guy in front of me before the show started, so I could only hope Setlist Simon would show up near us. He did, and I am now the proud owner of another E D I T O R S setlist. Bless this band's crew for printing extra setlists for us, it's a great souvenir and quite a lot of bands don't even bother handing the ones on the stage to fans. Editors fans get like 10 extra. After the gig I was so dead I completely missed my train stop, and I take that train pretty much every day. That (short) nightly walk was fun though, got to laugh at myself for being such a mess for a bit 
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Post by allsparks on Mar 19, 2018 20:47:46 GMT
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Post by feak on Mar 20, 2018 0:01:03 GMT
Has anyone bought a mystery t-shirt? I'm really tempted, but I have a fair few shirts from the past 13 years, and I'm just wondering whether anyone got anything "special", or if it's all just shirts I already have...
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Post by manfromdelmonte on Mar 20, 2018 19:08:34 GMT
Has anyone bought a mystery t-shirt? I'm really tempted, but I have a fair few shirts from the past 13 years, and I'm just wondering whether anyone got anything "special", or if it's all just shirts I already have... I’ve always thought about getting one of these. I think I’ve bought the majority of t-shirts that they’ve brought out over the last 13 years but there are some more recent ones (like the ‘snake’ and ‘coffin’ ones currently in the store) which I don’t have. I may take the risk at some point.
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Post by yipman on Mar 21, 2018 23:06:48 GMT
Luxembourg = same setlist as previous gigs with belong and nsbtw. Roubaix sound was better then the rockhal. Shame they didn't play the atelieras was originally intended.
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Post by Christelle on Mar 22, 2018 7:16:53 GMT
In Switzerland no sold out venue this year and no festival except Open Air St-Gallen...but ok we are a small country!
I hope for a small festival in the French part.
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Post by Captain Crieff on Mar 22, 2018 16:39:35 GMT
Support acts for the rest of the European tour: Dead Sea and October Drift!
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Post by theboxer on Mar 23, 2018 13:07:29 GMT
Regarding poor crowds at Editors gigs, it really is an odd one especially in the UK.
I've seen them 4 times now, first time at the HMV Institute in Birmingham in 2012 where we saw them debut Sugar and Nothing, then again in Birmingham during the In Dream tour. Amazing gigs, and that was because of the crowd. Everyone was jumping about, swaying, fall into each other, hot, sweaty, getting crushed (not literally), everyone clapping, singing, going wild when you heard the intro to a certain song etc.
Then we went to Leeds the following night. Dull. Nothing, absolutely terrible, people just staring into space and generally doing bugger all.
I would have said that maybe it had something to do with the fact that the band was from Birmingham and it's a homecoming show etc and that's the reason for the extra enthusiastic crowd. But then again they were equally boring at Birmingham Town hall only a couple of weeks ago.
One thing I did notice was the difference in demographic. Without causing offence there was a lot of middle aged or older people in attendance. I do distinctly remember at the Birmingham gig in 2012 that there were a lot of teens and a lot of students and young adults etc. Maybe that's because of the shift in their sound and the younger folk are more into indie rock bands, the way Editors used to be?
I've booked to go to Birmingham again in October and I'm avoiding Leeds like the plague. I'll probably end up at Rock City in Nottingham since we saw Foals there and crowd was wild.
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Post by Christelle on Mar 24, 2018 7:11:24 GMT
I'm not young...and I can't jump everywhere (I have a problem with one leg), but I can dance, clap my hands and scream! I really don't like when people do pogo...maybe since a friend of mine felt on the ground and we had to go to the hospital! I think people can dance without jumping everywhere...respect for everyone!If people jump, I "run away"! What I hate during concerts is people talking louder than the music!
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Post by Captain Crieff on Mar 24, 2018 10:15:00 GMT
Update from Paris: fantastic gig as always, and INSALELY good crowd. The floor of l'Olympia is all bouncy and holy shit it was pretty much a trampoline during Munich, AEHAS and Papillon. The Parisians certainly jump.
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Post by Hervanne on Mar 24, 2018 21:58:24 GMT
It was fantastic......
Do you known if they come back in November?
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Post by Captain Crieff on Mar 25, 2018 0:37:52 GMT
I don't know, but I think there's a chance
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Post by bugman13 on Mar 25, 2018 1:02:01 GMT
yeah, yeah, i know that they still made the same set list, but im really don't care. my dream is to hear NO HARM( last time they cancelled 2 polish gigs) but now im fucking dream to hear violence/noharm. fo me the setlist is 99% perfect. im so happy that the played only 2 tracks form second album ( for me it's their worst) can't wait to hear nearly a full VIOLENCE, and biggest hits like sugar, munich, ocean. Oh, dear band, play a full tour in Poland (5-6 gigs in big cities) im 100% that poznan,warsaw, krakow, gdansk, wroclaw were be sold out!
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But the people there were really nice and there was a nice connection with the band. At one point, a guy in a pink skirt got up on stage and started to dance with Russel, we all had a laugh. Also, during the end of Marching Orders every single person was dancing around with their arms up, it was really nice. 
After a long break this year i will attend the Mera Luna Festival...some good bands, and a lot of sh.. bands.
). I believe it was a blast there!
