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Post by alexs on Mar 8, 2018 18:35:04 GMT
So Editors currently have the same number of album without Chris, as when they were with him. Chris however, hasn't really made any effort at creating new music, and it seems he won't try it any time soon.
I get that finding talented people that share your taste would be really hard, but even by himself, he could always release a solo guitar album like Frusciante, or just do some work by himself, God knows it's extremely possible these days, people making entire albums on a laptop.
I guess he was really broken by the split-up, it's too bad he didn't get the power to try making something again. I'm sure that if he'd make an album and Editors' fans would hear about, they'd be curious for a listen.
It's actually kind of funny, once in a while I go by his twitter to check if maybe just maybe he posts any new music. A while ago he had some small collaborations with We are scientists, but very minor things that didn't really go anywhere.
Does anyone think he'll make a comeback? I think it's quite unlikely, it's been 6 years already and it doesn't seem like he's interested at all. Too bad for the wasted talent.
Edit: While doing InDream interviews, Tom once said he'd go meet with Chris soon, because things didn't end up right. Well, from what they've said in the current interviews, it appears that didn't happen. Again, too bad.
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Post by ayrad on Mar 8, 2018 18:55:17 GMT
So Editors currently have the same number of album without Chris, as when they were with him. Chris however, hasn't really made any effort at creating new music, and it seems he won't try it any time soon. I get that finding talented people that share your taste would be really hard, but even by himself, he could always release a solo guitar album like Frusciante, or just do some work by himself, God knows it's extremely possible these days, people making entire albums on a laptop. I guess he was really broken by the split-up, it's too bad he didn't get the power to try making something again. I'm sure that if he'd make an album and Editors' fans would hear about, they'd be curious for a listen. It's actually kind of funny, once in a while I go by his twitter to check if maybe just maybe he posts any new music. A while ago he had some small collaborations with We are scientists, but very minor things that didn't really go anywhere. Does anyone think he'll make a comeback? I think it's quite unlikely, it's been 6 years already and it doesn't seem like he's interested at all. Too bad for the wasted talent. Edit: While doing InDream interviews, Tom once said he'd go meet with Chris soon, because things didn't end up right. Well, from what they've said in the current interviews, it appears that didn't happen. Again, too bad. As the US tour was cancelled during the In Dream tour they didn’t get to meet with Chris in NY if there was ever the intention in the first place. I still think that it must have happened something more serious than just musical divergences. But I guess we’ll never know. As for Chris going solo I highly doubt it’ll happen. He really seems to be into a lot of other things that don’t involve music...
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Post by alexs on Mar 8, 2018 19:03:37 GMT
So Editors currently have the same number of album without Chris, as when they were with him. Chris however, hasn't really made any effort at creating new music, and it seems he won't try it any time soon. I get that finding talented people that share your taste would be really hard, but even by himself, he could always release a solo guitar album like Frusciante, or just do some work by himself, God knows it's extremely possible these days, people making entire albums on a laptop. I guess he was really broken by the split-up, it's too bad he didn't get the power to try making something again. I'm sure that if he'd make an album and Editors' fans would hear about, they'd be curious for a listen. It's actually kind of funny, once in a while I go by his twitter to check if maybe just maybe he posts any new music. A while ago he had some small collaborations with We are scientists, but very minor things that didn't really go anywhere. Does anyone think he'll make a comeback? I think it's quite unlikely, it's been 6 years already and it doesn't seem like he's interested at all. Too bad for the wasted talent. Edit: While doing InDream interviews, Tom once said he'd go meet with Chris soon, because things didn't end up right. Well, from what they've said in the current interviews, it appears that didn't happen. Again, too bad. As the US tour was cancelled during the In Dream tour they didn’t get to meet with Chris in NY if there was ever the intention in the first place. I still think that it must have happened something more serious than just musical divergences. But I guess we’ll never know. As for Chris going solo I highly doubt it’ll happen. He really seems to be into a lot of other things that don’t involve music... Sorry but what other things, I don't want to sound harsh, but if you go back months, even years into his twitter/instagram feeds, it's kinda clear he doesn't do much besides going to football games and just following football matches. And yes, you're right with the US thing, but this time they're going there, and hopefully the meetup will happen. EDIT: Well, he's probably still too attached to Editors in a way. I mean this is his current twitter profile photo for God's sake 
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Post by bugman13 on Mar 8, 2018 19:43:37 GMT
back ? where ? to the band ?
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Post by nikacp0kac on Mar 8, 2018 19:44:24 GMT
Chris just looks like a totally different personality than the three (Tom, Russel, Ed). They are nowadays family guys more or less, aren't they? They have children, whereas I think Chris is still a party-guy, maybe dabbles with drugs and stuff - that's also why I think they grew apart back then and the inevitable happened.
I guess what I want to say, put simply - Chris wanted to be a rockstar whereas the others prefer a more normal life, I don't know. Feel free to disprove.
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Post by alexs on Mar 8, 2018 19:50:29 GMT
back ? where ? to the band ? Not to the band, back to making music. Based on what Tom says in interviews, the creation process was very restricted when they were together, as in, Only Tom & Chris really worked on writing the music, so it's a pretty sure thing that Chris is talented and not just a good guitar player. + the band's sound changed drastically when Chris left, so again, it's obvious he did quite a bit of heavy lifting when he was around. I actually hoped he'd do a solo album, or that he'd put together a new band. Or just try anything at all, cause he really hasn't so far.
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Post by ayrad on Mar 8, 2018 19:52:59 GMT
As the US tour was cancelled during the In Dream tour they didn’t get to meet with Chris in NY if there was ever the intention in the first place. I still think that it must have happened something more serious than just musical divergences. But I guess we’ll never know. As for Chris going solo I highly doubt it’ll happen. He really seems to be into a lot of other things that don’t involve music... Sorry but what other things, I don't want to sound harsh, but if you go back months, even years into his twitter/instagram feeds, it's kinda clear he doesn't do much besides going to football games and just following football matches. And yes, you're right with the US thing, but this time they're going there, and hopefully the meetup will happen. EDIT: Well, he's probably still too attached to Editors in a way. I mean this is his current twitter profile photo for God's sake Yes, sports mostly, wrestling, soccer he writes columns or composes jingles. He’s living the quiet married life in the country side outside NY PRing his dog on Instagram and enjoying canine state fair competitions. Only from time to time he meets with his We Are Scientis friends and Andy (I wonder how awkward that can be...) and produces some music. He clearly stated that he’s retired. But maybe just maybe that pic with his Editors’ trophies means he’s still emotionally attached to a glorious past. Tom said he didn’t want to play guitar and be in a band anymore. But have we ever heard Chris’ take? Guess actions speak louder than words...
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Post by colint on Mar 8, 2018 20:01:06 GMT
I think that these are all personal issues between Chris and the band and that we should give them some privacy. We should not dictate Tom or Chris to do anything.
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Post by alexs on Mar 8, 2018 20:04:55 GMT
I think that these are all personal issues between Chris and the band and that we should give them some privacy. We should not dictate Tom or Chris to do anything. That's not the goal here. And I honestly don't care for them getting back, that'd be impossible. Chris seemed to be a very talented guy, and I was just baffled he hasn't done anything since then. It's just a topic for speculation and chatter I guess. But I guess there's not much to speculate on really, which is a shame.
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Post by yipman on Mar 8, 2018 21:37:24 GMT
He produced an album and ep for a Belgian band called The spectors a couple years ago on the pias label . I think he more or less was the one behind the electronics on In this light. And who wouldn't want to hear those recordings with Flood just before the split . Two hearted spider , the sting , formaldehyde and apparently an early version of magazine
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Post by alexs on Mar 8, 2018 21:46:12 GMT
He produced an album and ep for a Belgian band called The spectors a couple years ago on the pias label . I think he more or less was the one behind the electronics on In this light. And who wouldn't want to hear those recordings with Flood just before the split . Two hearted spider , the sting , formaldehyde and apparently an early version of magazine I watched two hearted spider & sting on youtube, and man those original versions sounded so much better. Too bad back then the cameras were shit, and we didn't get a decently recorded live performance. I think he more or less was the one behind the electronics on In this light-> yep and what an album that was. One can only wonder how Editors would've sounded if he was still around. And who wouldn't want to hear those recordings with Flood just before the split I doubt we'll ever get the Flood recordings. Tom & Chris still seem be in a silent feud, and releasing those songs now that Justin & Elliot are around would probably be too weird
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Post by DannyManta on Mar 8, 2018 22:37:26 GMT
The feud wasn’t just between Chris and Tom it was the fact Chris wanted to make ITLAOTE again where as the others didn’t, I have heard Chris could be hard work, was always a kind of black sheep in the band who hated touring and meeting people. I think he had just had enough. It is also worth noting that it wasn’t Tom who actually told him to leave, it was somebody else.
Either way it’s a shame but the band was broken and it had to happen. They got shut of the original drummer back in the old days so sometimes drastic changes are sometimes the only option
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Post by ForgotMyUsername on Mar 9, 2018 0:00:26 GMT
Yeah, I really don't think the problem was just between Tom and Chris. Tom has never been anything but diplomatic but, reading between the lines in various interviews, Ed and Russell especially have said some harsher things. I get the idea that they felt they didn't have an equal say in the band and that Chris was too bossy. Recent interviews always stress how much more collaborative the songwriting is now.
As for Chris himself, he didn't seem to really enjoy being in a band. IIRC, in a podcast he was on after leaving the band, he said he hated touring and playing live and preferred being in the studio.
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Post by alexs on Mar 9, 2018 0:32:16 GMT
The feud wasn’t just between Chris and Tom it was the fact Chris wanted to make ITLAOTE again where as the others didn’t, I have heard Chris could be hard work, was always a kind of black sheep in the band who hated touring and meeting people. I think he had just had enough. It is also worth noting that it wasn’t Tom who actually told him to leave, it was somebody else. Either way it’s a shame but the band was broken and it had to happen. They got shut of the original drummer back in the old days so sometimes drastic changes are sometimes the only option I would've loved a part 2 of ITLAOTE honestly. Another thing is, that record was really really experimental. You couldn't find any other record that had a sound like that, believe me, I've tried. I don't see why it would've been so bad if Chris wanted to explore that sound more. In this case at least, I don't think it was repeating, as it was just exploring something more, exploring that sound they developed on the ITLAOTE. I love all their records, but let's face it, ITLAOTE, hate it or love it, was their most original work due to how experimental they went with the whole thing. Can we say the same about the albums they released after? Doubt it, because there are bands around which have produced a sound similar to the weight of your love, in dream, not to mention to violence, which is their most accessible/generic one.
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Post by theboxer on Mar 9, 2018 20:12:36 GMT
What I don't understand, is that they said they were splitting because of disagreements in future musical direction.
Because The Weight Of Your Love reverted back to traditional guitars and drums I figured it must have been Chris who was campaigning for more keyboards and drum machines. Makes sense.
So then why on earth did they put the guitars down for albums 5 & 6?
Don't get me wrong, give me ITLAOTE, In Dream and Violence over the other 3 any day of the week (I think TWOYL is the weakest of the lot) but I don't understand what went off.
Fair enough musical taste can change but getting rid of your old mate because he wanted to make another electronic album to then make a further two electronic albums only a couple of years later if baffling.
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