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Post by theboxer on Mar 6, 2018 7:57:29 GMT
Is anyone else getting increasingly bored of Editors' setlists?
After seeing them at Birmingham I walked away feeling slightly dissatisfied. Don't get me wrong, the band's performances were second to none, the new tracks sounded great and the venue superb. I'm just getting bored of the same old songs and predictable sets. Me and my brother were guessing what the set was going to include before the start of the gig and I think the only one we didn't get right was Lights... So that's one surprise.
I'm bored of Racing Rats, bored of AEHAS, bored of Smokers... Replace any of those three with Escape the Nest (or other).
I'm bored of Blood and Munich... Replace either with Fingers in the Factories, Open Your Arms or Camera.
Despite ITLAOTE being my favourite album, I'm bored of Eat Raw Meat... Play The Big Exit!
Sugar? Bored. Ton Of Love? Bored.
Every track bar the Violence tracks or Lights was a single. They're becoming just like Depeche Mode whereby they never drop any of the same old songs... Enjoy The Silence, Personal Jesus, Never Let Me Down, Walking In My Shoes, just to name a few (these tracks have been played at EVERY single gig since their releases in 1990, 87 and 93 respectively).
The other gripe I have is they don't switch up the setlists. Why not swap out 3-4 of the tracks for alternatives each night? Keep us guessing and surprising us. I'm not asking for Radiohead, Nine Inch Nails or The National where they play nearly 50 different tracks each tour, or play an encore one night and then start the next gig with those same encore songs (imagine Editors opening with Papillon!). Just asking for a little variety as I plan to attend 2-3 gigs on the upcoming UK tour. I just hope I don't spend nearly £100 and end up watching the same tracks and set as the other night.
Anyone have similar feelings?
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Post by colint on Mar 6, 2018 8:15:43 GMT
I completely feel the same as you, I'm also bored of those songs. But don't forget that we are the more die-hard fans who have seen them live a lot of times! Other people see them for the first or second time and are probably not bored of those songs yet, and would actually be sad if they would not hear them.
Also, they only played two shows until now, so they might rotate 2-3 songs each night at other shows. I think they are also more comfortable dropping songs like AEHAS and Smokers in, for example, The Netherlands or Belgium versus the UK (where a lot of people only like The Back Room and AEHAS).
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Post by Christelle on Mar 6, 2018 8:26:41 GMT
I understand this feeling too.
It would be nice to start with papillon...I like the idea, but not sure that it would be ok for a lot of people.
There are many songs I would like to hear again (camera, push your head...,the boxer,like treasure,...).
I'm sure they will sing NSBTW in Belgium...I hope the new version is better...
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Post by bugman13 on Mar 6, 2018 9:17:01 GMT
i can understand, but sorry, i just saw them 2 times. last time in 2013 (in 2015 they cancelled 2 my gigs) so im not bored. i really want to hear munich or eat raw. munich or papillon are their biggest hits, so int's normal that they MUST play those tracks. how many people can be on club gigs ?2000 ? maybe 200 people are "die hard fans" the rest want to play a singles to sing a lot.
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Post by allsparks on Mar 6, 2018 9:27:19 GMT
Yes, i can understand your point...especially regarding Depeche.
Depeche is now playing only 2 songs from the last record, it is only a greatest hits tour.
The problem is, after 6 records you have a number of tracks you have to play (Munich, Smokers....) and the space to include other songs is getting smaller every tour.
I would love to hear Camera, Fall, Escape the nest, The Boxer and so on, but you can never please everybody.
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Post by allsparks on Mar 6, 2018 9:50:43 GMT
I can't remember exactly, but i think it was Ed who i asked about a Fan chosen setlist..he wasn't euphoric, i think he didn't answer that question at all.
My problem with the set is, that Smokers is again acoustic, and Papillon and Marching Orders at the end as on the last tour.
Little variations of the setlist would make it much better.i think. Replacing Atol + Aehas with 2 songs not played that often, and the set would be different.
I am also a big Suede fan, they have always great setlists. Many b sides and variations
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Post by yipman on Mar 6, 2018 10:40:24 GMT
Well everyone of us has his obscure favourites that we want to be in the setlist . For me I would like the return of Fingers, Like treasure (Always thought that the recorded version could have been better then the one that turned up on ITLAOE), Bones ... ;but you can't please everyone . The band will make their own choice of musical direction they want to take and rightly so . Seeing the setlist of the last 2 gigs I would surely drop Ocean of night - for me it's a total non-event and Smokers but in Belgium I think it will be replaced by NSBTW; And Marching Orders sounds epic and bombastic but not such a great song imho
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Post by sanniebeer on Mar 6, 2018 11:14:20 GMT
Yes! Totally agree! Every time i saw them like 3 times a year or more, I dont like some songs anymore. First time is always good, but then, nah. Indeed, change the setlist every evening, just a few old songs that don't come by very often would be perfect
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Post by theboxer on Mar 6, 2018 12:15:27 GMT
Well everyone of us has his obscure favourites that we want to be in the setlist . For me I would like the return of Fingers, Like treasure (Always thought that the recorded version could have been better then the one that turned up on ITLAOE), Bones ... ;but you can't please everyone . The band will make their own choice of musical direction they want to take and rightly so . Seeing the setlist of the last 2 gigs I would surely drop Ocean of night - for me it's a total non-event and Smokers but in Belgium I think it will be replaced by NSBTW; And Marching Orders sounds epic and bombastic but not such a great song imho I get that you can't please everyone and yes we have our favourites, but I'm not arsed about what they play as long as it's something different. For reference, as for ITLAOTE, the following tracks are rarely featured: You Don't Know Love has been played twice since 2011. The Big Exit not been played since 2011. Like Treasure not been played since 2013. The Boxer not been played since 2010. Walk The Fleet Road not played since 2010. In comparison to ERM=BD has been played 181 times since 2011 and we all know about Papillion. And then Hyena has been played only once, The Weight has been played only 10 times... And I get that not every track works fantastically well live but there must be other options. An easy way to switch things up would be Tom's obligatory acoustic song, that could be switched up to literally anything he knows the chords to- again a bit like Martin Gore of DM (not so much on this current tour but I bet he sang about 20 different tracks with nothing but piano on the last tour). Would be nice if they continued throwing in The Pulse every now and again. Ah well at least I was in attendance for only one of the six performances of Our Love.
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Post by James on Mar 6, 2018 13:13:00 GMT
ohhh what i would give to hear the big exit again
like treasure would also be good - always shimmering and beautiful live
fingers in the factories should definitely take the place of something if not just added to the setlist
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Post by ayrad on Mar 6, 2018 13:18:01 GMT
In an interview years ago Ed said that they will not play Like Treasure or The Phone Book live anymore because they don't work that well. I strongly disagree with him on this.
They should vary more, surprise us with some old bonus tracks, I really would love Alone or I Want A Forest or even The Sting that was a bomb live the few times they played it.
Would kill for The Boxer. But who knows, tour's just about to start, maybe Tom will wake up one morning inspired :-)
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Post by alexs on Mar 6, 2018 13:53:06 GMT
I agree, their setlists are getting way too repetitive.
I would guess that they're thinking, since they played many songs live over the years, that they learned what the public likes and doesn't like to hear live.
But I think they should also consider that at the moment they're sounding quite repetitive. Yes the new songs will be great live, but the rest of the setlists it seems will remain the same as the past couple of years.
I honestly don't care what songs they would pick, anything would work that we haven't heard before, break the monotony a little.
The editors are a great band, but let's be honest, they're not super commercial/super successful when compared to the mainstream, and I think they should embrace that, use it as a positive thing, experiment more with older songs without the fear that they'll upset the masses(which ironically seem to be quite into the idea)
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Post by Captain Crieff on Mar 6, 2018 13:54:28 GMT
I dug up a passage from an e-mail conversation between Tom and Gary Lightbody that was published in Dutch in OOR magazine 3 years ago, Gary asks Tom how they decide on a setlist: based on how they're feeling on that day, or based on what the audience wants to hear. He says Snow Patrol have a fixed framework, with some songs in the middle that change from time to time. Tom's answer: Some good points there, I think. It sounds perfectly reasonable to me to have this fixed framework. And in response to the first post I also want to say that we've only had 2 shows on this new tour, 2 album launch shows. The actual tour hasn't even started and I remember there was some variation on the previous tours as Tom says: 1 or two songs in the middle get swapped now and then. I'd love to hear The Big Exit as well, but it's an Editors mk I song, and I vaguely remember the band saying somewhere that it's Chris' song or something along those lines... I also agree with what colint said: we're big fans and the lucky ones among us are able to go to a lot of shows. We're not the general public, the general public is standing there waiting for Munich/A Ton Of Love depending on the country. I certainly wouldn't mind if they skipped those songs but they'd leave a lot of people disappointed. But hey, there's some optimism in Tom's quote: give it a couple of years and their back catalogue will be big enough to pull an R.E.M. (maybe with mostly Editors mk II songs) 
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Post by yipman on Mar 6, 2018 14:36:04 GMT
indeed not everyone is crazy enough to attend more then 1 show. Only a small percentage of the crowd does that;
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Post by alexs on Mar 6, 2018 14:37:52 GMT
indeed not everyone is crazy enough to attend more then 1 show. Only a small percentage of the crowd does that; Then what's the point in not playing other stuff as well? If certain people only attend one show, I don't see the difference in getting restricted only to certain songs.
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Some of our album's popularity also varies by country. The UK tends to prefer album 1 & 2, and in the rest of the world it's the other way around. If we have to take all of that into account, we'd go crazy.